These dudes absolutely rock and I recommend everybody to listen to this podcast. The way that these guys spit it straight without clinging to any ideological dogmas is refreshing, and they have great guests on all the time. BOOK RECOMMENDATION for Marshall and Saagar: First a book recommendation. You guys totally have to read the book The Fourth Turning by Neil Howe and William Strauss. It is an amazing work of American history viewed through a generational lens, and explains a lot about why culture has shifted how it has since WW2. They also coined the term millennial in 1997 and its spot on about this generations mindset. QUESTION for Marshall and Saagar: Do you guys think that the US will accept a fate of long-term population decline?? East Asia is facing population decline right now and shows little intention to bring in immigrants. Europe is facing a nativist backlash for the immigration that it’s invited in the last decade and family size continues to shrink. Im pro-immigration and want a growing USA, but you guys often talk about tight labor markets regarding worker wages. Do you think the US will allow itself to shrink in size, or will we snap out of our coma when we realize this trend. Will there be a baby boom, immigration wave, or a period of decline? Predictions and opinions??
Fantastic show, if you like rising and feel like there aren’t any shows examining today’s issues in depth and in good faith, you’ll love this show whether you’re left or right. On to my question for the hosts: In episode 103 with Michael Doran, you touch on the culture war debate and the “private companies / universities can do whatever they want” retort, to which Marshall briefly brings up the fact that Amazon is receiving billions in federal contracts. This gets at a larger issue which i’ve barely seen brought up: universities (and companies, to a lesser but still significant extent) receive MASSIVE federal subsidies and grants, and these grants often directly fund highly partisan CRT “studies” which are then used as the basis to push leftist policy. With the understanding the private organizations have freedom of assembly, shouldn’t the acceptance of federal government funds carry some restrictions, or at least guarantee that the recipients won’t discriminate based on race (as Mr Doran admits many universities do)? During the episode all three of you seem to take at face value the fact that these organizations’ behavior can’t be challenged legally, but i would posit that the government has an obligation not to give grants or subsidies to organizations that so blatantly limit political expression. Welcome your guys thoughts on this, and any recommendations on writers or thinkers on this topic.
Great podcast. Hay I had an idea for you: “proletariat replacement theory”. As all of us informed people know, American elites are not simply trying to “replace” working class whites, but Blacks as well. The mania for low skilled immigration is about class, not race. Do you think this formulation can take the issue away from the ultra right and allow America to finally resolve this problem before it drives us into major civil unrest? Thanks.
I enjoy your podcast and rising, both shows speak to me as to asking the nuanced questions we need to ask if we are to move past the generation of our parents governance Which leads to my question. Biden has stated that the US will withdraw within the Middle East and while I agree with that idea. I imagine there will be negative effects, economic or otherwise, to the US because of that decision. There are profits to be made off of war and what happens when those profits disappear?
I love listening to your show and the wide diversity of topics. However, as I listen again to discussion of AI, tech, the requirement for advanced degrees, etc I think there may be a counter path. What about talking to someone like Mike Rowe about the Skills Gap. There are many high paid Blue Collar jobs that can’t be filled. Too many people get in debt for college degrees that don’t serve them in the future. Thanks
Hey guys, love the pod. Both “war with China” podcasts reminded me of a short but impactful conversation I had with an old history professor I had in college in 2016. We were discussing the turmoil in our country and I simply asked “when do you think we will see a major political shift in politics including both as a geopolitical super power and our domestic policy across both parties?” His response was “when the baby boomers die off”. At first I laughed but soon realized the truth in his statement. Do you guys think there will be a political shift after our parent’s generation dies off? (I’m pro parents not dying off btw) and do y’all think it will cause yet more division given the current trends with younger generations? I see an obvious attitude difference towards social issues and foreign policy amongst baby boomers and millennials but I’m not so sure that we haven’t just inherited the same views but with different roots. In 1960 it was the fight against communism. Today it’s the fight against terror. Does money and power supersede generational beliefs and tendencies? P.S. I’m a history major and I love the historical context you guys provide. I always gravitated towards WW1 as an interest and the lack of perspective many Americans have on western civ in general is alarming particularly topics such as Marxism, the Revolutions of 1848, WW1, and the French Revolution. Also, the Guns of August by B. Tuchman should be required reading. I also want to recommend a couple books “Passchendaele: The Untold Story” by Robin Prior and Trevor Wilson and “The End of Tsarist Russia: the March to WW1 and Revolution” by Dominic Lieven. The latter is a grind but amazingly informative on the Russian sphere during the turn of the century. I was going to say “Ordinary Men” by Christopher Browning but I’m sure you guys have got it. If not, it’s a must. Thanks for making my days better. Sincerely, Ryan K. from Atlanta, Ga
Always incredibly insightful, ideologically curious, truly focused on the issues and it couldn’t be more helpful to today’s world of political commentary.
I love the show you guys have really broaden my thinking about the world we live in. I have been also been listening to a guy named Peter Zeihan and I just want to know if this guy is a joke or if he is somewhat right.
I’ve been listening for a few months and the topics and discussion are good though the jargon can run high. I like the show but I’m not sure you guys are conservative. At least not in the way I think of conservatism. I’m older than your usual (and clearly targeted) demographic but that’s also why I listen (we gen Xers tend to be contra). Maybe the generational gap is the cause of my confusion. From what I heard from the show you are what I would consider center left particularly your support of modern monetary theory (maybe I’m hearing you wrong on this). My question (more of a request) is that you run down the beliefs and policies that make you conservative? And what is your view of MMT?
I ran into this podcast through Rising and I have been going through the episodes for a few months now. I think it is the only thing online that closely mirrors my politics. Hopefully sometime in the future this vision of the conservative realignment will be mirrored by leaders in Washington. I hope Saagar and Marshall continue the great work!!
I appreciate that this podcast asks the right questions and has a focus on how current events relate to the big picture instead of getting lost in the day to day culture war Twitter flare ups. As someone who works around NY politics and as a fan of Caro, I’d be interested to hear if Saagar noticed any parallels between Gov. Cuomo’s scandals and Robert Moses’ fall from grace as detailed in the Power Broker. I believe Cuomo thinks of himself as an heir to the Moses framework and if you agree, what do you think comes next?
Marshall and Sagaar, love your show and a huge fan of Rising as well! Given the recent media hubbub surrounding the GA election law as well as the increasing prominence of crypto currencies and blockchain technologies, do you ever see a future where blockchain is used to facilitate voting, perhaps on a national scale? Something that crossed my mind recently is a sort of “voter NFT”, like an electronic voting token provided directly by the government to each eligible voter, which could possibly alleviate concerns surrounding voter identification, election security, as well as voter accessibility. Would love to hear your thoughts on this and whether you think we could ever move to a nationwide system of voting that is 100% electronic given concerns about security and the variability of voting laws across the 50 states.
This is truly a phenomenal podcast. Marshall and Saagar do a great job bringing in interesting guests, and presenting an unbiased look at the larger political movements occurring in the US. I love hearing well thought out arguments from both sides of the political spectrum. It is the first and only podcast I consistently tune in for on a weekly basis. Keep up the great content!
I enjoyed you on Rogan and I get it that you’re a fan/friend of his, but you don’t need to bring him up every episode. It’s starting to get weird.
Love the podcast and the really well thought out takes tou guys have. What are some “conspiracy theories” you guys think are actually true? I personally didn’t buy into any of them until the whole Jeffrey Epstein debacle. Now I’m not sure what other conspiracies may or may not be true.
I found this podcast from watching Saagar on Rising. It’s a good one with an unbiased view of the world, which is hard to find these days. These guys are only going up!
Saagar is one of my favorite voices in podcasting. I share him regularly with both my liberal and conservative friends and more often than not get a positive response in return (I’m a CA independent) For all the negativity towards younger voices today he is one of the few adults in the room. Marshall is starting to grow on me the more I listen and is really coming into his own. His questions come off sincere and honest and not loaded and obvious to get a response he wants. These two guys make my life more enjoyable than before. Undo the insanity and subscribe. Grab a Topo Chico and enjoy.
Marshall/Saagar, have really enjoyed the podcast and looking forward to what is coming down the road. One of my favorite aspects is the quality of conversations you have with guests that aren’t as widely known across the country, or really, Twitter. Given this, I am curious if you think there are more J.D. Vance’s waiting in the wings espousing similar populist views? Or if those possessing similar abilities are largely staying away from the political arena? Also, if anything can be done in the ‘22 Ohio race, or a similar race, to push back against whoever Trump endorses, assuming it is not Vance? Thank you!
Really enjoy this pod. Was a Bernie supporter both in 2016 and 2020 but have generally been disappointed by the left podcast sphere and the amount of time they spend rehashing internet drama. These guys are having thoughtful conversations about topics the left will be completely blindsided by unless we can wise up.
Russell Brand! He’s on the pulse of the Western zeitgeist, makes good cases about the problems with Big tech and Political power, is very articulate is HILARIOUS! But you’d need 2.5 hours for a legit discussion. Make it happen, Gents!!
Marshall and Saagar - I don’t always agree with your takes but I really enjoy the podcast, always listen in, and I like the topics you discuss and the guest you have on. I am also a Riser and watch every episode. What you guys are doing is beneficial for us as a country and I never hesitate to recommend your content. Although I would like to ask a variation of a third party question, the question I’ll ask is about identity politics. After Tammy Duckworth basically said she’s not voting for a white nominee until President Biden commits to selecting more AAPI individuals to serve in his administration, do you think this is a trend that will continue? Will more minority groups threaten to withhold their votes if they don’t feel adequately represented? And furthermore, do you think the electorate will care more about identity or ideology/policy going forward?
Love the show. Thanks for the great work that you do Marshall and Saagar. It feels like many conservatives I know have become increasingly skeptical and hostile to big business for culture war reasons, but that doesn’t seem to have translated to support for labor or counterbalancing institutions. Is there an opportunity for opinions on labor issues to be realigned by way of the culture wars? I’m interested in what circumstances would be required for a broader shift in attitudes on the topic. Thanks!
Hey Guys - Big fan of the pod (started 4 months ago). After listening to Admiral Stavridis episode and Sagar’s recent Rising radar, I’ll admit, I’m somewhat addicted to hear you both talk foreign policy. Have not heard much from new administration outside of rejoining JPOC, and the love missiles sent to Syria. IMO the Abraham accords have totally changed the game, since Obama years. Would love to know your thoughts on how the current state of Middle East policy and what the future holds?
I listen regularly and truly feel many episodes could be much longer. Saager and Marshall are prepared and very articulate along with compelling guests and topics. I always learn something new. Thanks for all you do.
This podcast is illuminating and timely as well as precisely edited. The expert handling of so many facets of American culture convincingly propels their thesis that global, national, and local societies are realigning. Marshall and Saagar are smart, thoughtful, and SO well-read. I am an end-of-generation Gen-Xer and a huge fan. There is minimal-Millennial-navel-pondering in this podcast.
I started listening right before the election and it very quickly helped me realized I wasn't as libertarian as I had once thought. A really insightful pod that has helped me understand political ideas that I had always had in the back of my mind but didn’t know how to voice. Also does anyone else clap on the snare drop during the bumper music? Just me? Oh, okay. Thank you Marshall and Saagar! My question: I have always wondered what the effect of a government policy to help people move for work would be. For example, if you are a family of low-income service worker and say you want to leave a big, expensive city and move to a small midwestern town but could never save enough money for a moving truck and other expenses for your family. You hear of a new industry or business that has lots of new openings in a town across the country, so the government provides a $3000 to check to alleviate move costs? How do you think that would affect underemployment and cross-country migration?
Is this too simple an answer to an issue. What do you guys think would happen if the voting laws were changed that would only allow those whom have served in the military or contributed to the system in the way of employment taxes? A couple thoughts on the taxes. 1. Should be house hold in nature so the stay at home spouses have a voice if their significant others are the earners. 2. Those whom are on government assistance longer than 9 months would not be qualified to vote. In my simpleton mind I think this would solve some issues. Happy to debate the idea since I haven’t had the time to dig into the idea.
Long-time listener, first-time reviewer. This podcast is excellent - intellectually stimulating guests, engaging hosts, quality production. Saagar and Marshall really care about the listener and focus on the substance of the political and cultural realignment that is defining the age we live in. I look forward to when this drops every Tuesday and Thursday, and know I'll get to ponder some truly deep issues and challenge my own thinking, assumptions and biases. Keep it up!